Comments on: Gender, Race and Ableism in ‘Joker’ https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/ Sociology for Social Justice by Zuleyka Zevallos Sat, 08 Aug 2020 04:29:52 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: Oscars blijven wit en mannelijk | De Zesde Clan https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/#comment-54500 Sun, 19 Jan 2020 14:05:46 +0000 http://othersociologist.com/?p=25679#comment-54500 […] Moederfiguur die je openlijk mag haten omdat ze haar zoon verpestte. Daarnaast presenteert de film een man die een vrouw stalkt als iets onschuldigs en romantisch. Yikes. Het is opvallend hoeveel mannelijke filmrecensenten […]

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]]> By: Johanna https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/#comment-52861 Wed, 08 Jan 2020 14:44:25 +0000 http://othersociologist.com/?p=25679#comment-52861 In reply to Dr Zuleyka Zevallos.

Thank you!

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]]> By: Dr Zuleyka Zevallos https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/#comment-51415 Thu, 26 Dec 2019 03:20:16 +0000 http://othersociologist.com/?p=25679#comment-51415 In reply to Johanna.

Hi Johanna

Thanks for your comment. You can read a gif-free version here: https://othersociologist.files.wordpress.com/2019/12/the-other-sociologist-gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker.pdf

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]]> By: Dr Zuleyka Zevallos https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/#comment-51103 Tue, 24 Dec 2019 05:06:55 +0000 http://othersociologist.com/?p=25679#comment-51103 In reply to Ale.

Hi Ale,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. This is a good comparison you raise, as Fight Club is a also a movie that engages with a cis-White male ‘crisis’ of hegemonic masculinity.

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]]> By: Ale https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/#comment-45267 Thu, 14 Nov 2019 05:39:17 +0000 http://othersociologist.com/?p=25679#comment-45267 Hey, fellow sociologist here. I’ll talk from my point of view (as an afro-latino cis man) I really liked Joker when I saw it, but I still thought about criticicisms like the ones you have. I also found the treatment of race and gender issues underwhelming, but I gave the masculinity portrayal a different reading: I felt a Fight Club vibe. Just like Tyler, Arthur is a frail, egotistical representation of underdog masculinity trying to emerge. Both eventually “succeed” (in their own macho terms) after blaming others for their misfortunes, but I don’t feel that we as an audience are supposed to applaud that. However, your analysis helped me understand why i felt unsatisfied: superficial treatment of those subjects implied (or revealed?) the simplistic and posibily misoginystic views of the authors.
Glad I found this site!

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]]> By: Johanna https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/#comment-40535 Fri, 11 Oct 2019 20:24:07 +0000 http://othersociologist.com/?p=25679#comment-40535 Dear Zuleyka Zevallos, although I havent seen the movie (because I cant watch films with violence) I strated reading your article with growing interest as I am a white disabled feminist trying to learn more about privilege, ablism and power. Unfortunately it was impossible for me to read your text due to the constant movements caused by the animated images. As it it already hard for me to read, it is even harder with movement occuring at the same time due to my disablilty. It would be lovely if you could keep that in mind for futher writings. I am sure your text wouldnt loose anything by using no gifs and less images all together. On the contrary.
Greetings from aound the globe,
Johanna

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]]> By: Dr Zuleyka Zevallos https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/#comment-39795 Mon, 07 Oct 2019 04:13:32 +0000 http://othersociologist.com/?p=25679#comment-39795 In reply to Meredith Jones.

Hi Meredith,
Thanks very much for your comment. Your question is a good one! It’s interesting because the origins of the Extinction Rebellion started as an academic protest, drawing inspiration on feminist and civil rights movements. So in principle, it should be inclusive. But it quickly became a White space, including racist dog whilstling from within the movement’s media arm. The same was the case with Science March, where racism, ableism and sexism made the protests unwelcoming to minorities. There’s a sub-cohort of young White men who see climate activism as their domain to re-assert their dominace (‘eco-fascism’). Would the White men participating in Extinction Rebellion identify with the ‘Joker’? It’s unlikely for most of them, because the movement predates the film. However, the White men currently harassing me online because of my post on ‘Joker’ (‘you’re stupid, this film is not for you!’) use similar language to eco-fascists. Whether it’s a film or environmentalism, these angry White men demand that we go along with their narrow and uncritical idea of the world, or be subjected to more vitriol.

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]]> By: Meredith Jones https://othersociologist.com/2019/10/06/gender-race-and-ableism-in-joker/#comment-39767 Sun, 06 Oct 2019 22:43:52 +0000 http://othersociologist.com/?p=25679#comment-39767 Thank you so much for this. You are so insightful… although I’d thought already about the disability and mental illness in the film (which I also saw in Newtown, with a laughing but largely woman audience) I hadn’t processed race or gender. It’s interesting that the Extinction Rebellion takeovers begin today… I wonder how many of the young white men leading that movement will see this film and identify?

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